Discussion:
"Lane Control" in the Hindhead Tunnel
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Mentalguy2k8
2013-09-10 11:51:33 UTC
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Why do so many people appear to think that this means that whichever lane
they enter the tunnel in, they have to *stay* in?

It's bad enough that so many see the "average speed cameras sign" and don't
know what the speed limit is so they dither through the whole thing at
40-50mph, but even worse when they're in the 2nd lane and refuse to move
over. It needs a sign reminding people of the speed limit and a sign saying
"You're allowed to change lanes in the tunnel".
The Revd
2013-09-10 15:59:58 UTC
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On Tue, 10 Sep 2013 12:51:33 +0100, "Mentalguy2k8"
Post by Mentalguy2k8
Why do so many people appear to think that this means that whichever lane
they enter the tunnel in, they have to *stay* in?
It's bad enough that so many see the "average speed cameras sign" and don't
know what the speed limit is so they dither through the whole thing at
40-50mph, but even worse when they're in the 2nd lane and refuse to move
over. It needs a sign reminding people of the speed limit and a sign saying
"You're allowed to change lanes in the tunnel".
No, it needs YOU fucking people to slow down. The pubs are open all
day now, so what's the hurry?
The Peeler
2013-09-10 16:36:09 UTC
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On Tue, 10 Sep 2013 08:59:58 -0700, The Rectum, the resident psychopath of
sci and scj and Usenet's famous sexual cripple, FAKING his time zone again,
Post by The Revd
On Tue, 10 Sep 2013 12:51:33 +0100, "Mentalguy2k8"
Post by Mentalguy2k8
Why do so many people appear to think that this means that whichever lane
they enter the tunnel in, they have to *stay* in?
It's bad enough that so many see the "average speed cameras sign" and don't
know what the speed limit is so they dither through the whole thing at
40-50mph, but even worse when they're in the 2nd lane and refuse to move
over. It needs a sign reminding people of the speed limit and a sign saying
"You're allowed to change lanes in the tunnel".
No, it needs YOU fucking people to slow down. The pubs are open all
day now, so what's the hurry?
<snicker> IMPRESSIVE ...your idiocy, that is...
--
happy zombie addressing The Rectum:
"you are fluent in talking complete shite."
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The Revd
2013-09-10 18:47:53 UTC
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On Tue, 10 Sep 2013 18:36:09 +0200, The Peeler
Post by The Peeler
On Tue, 10 Sep 2013 08:59:58 -0700, The Rectum, the resident psychopath of
sci and scj and Usenet's famous sexual cripple, FAKING his time zone again,
Post by The Revd
On Tue, 10 Sep 2013 12:51:33 +0100, "Mentalguy2k8"
Post by Mentalguy2k8
Why do so many people appear to think that this means that whichever lane
they enter the tunnel in, they have to *stay* in?
It's bad enough that so many see the "average speed cameras sign" and don't
know what the speed limit is so they dither through the whole thing at
40-50mph, but even worse when they're in the 2nd lane and refuse to move
over. It needs a sign reminding people of the speed limit and a sign saying
"You're allowed to change lanes in the tunnel".
No, it needs YOU fucking people to slow down. The pubs are open all
day now, so what's the hurry?
<snicker> IMPRESSIVE ...my Grik idiocy, that is...
<snigger> VERY, anus!
David C
2013-09-15 13:22:11 UTC
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On Tue, 10 Sep 2013 12:51:33 +0100, "Mentalguy2k8"
Post by Mentalguy2k8
Why do so many people appear to think that this means that whichever lane
they enter the tunnel in, they have to *stay* in?
It's bad enough that so many see the "average speed cameras sign" and don't
know what the speed limit is so they dither through the whole thing at
40-50mph, but even worse when they're in the 2nd lane and refuse to move
over. It needs a sign reminding people of the speed limit and a sign saying
"You're allowed to change lanes in the tunnel".
Q?

What is the speed limit in the Hindhead Tunnel?
(& is it variable or fixed?)

DC
Mentalguy2k8
2013-09-15 19:28:08 UTC
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Post by The Revd
On Tue, 10 Sep 2013 12:51:33 +0100, "Mentalguy2k8"
Post by Mentalguy2k8
Why do so many people appear to think that this means that whichever lane
they enter the tunnel in, they have to *stay* in?
It's bad enough that so many see the "average speed cameras sign" and don't
know what the speed limit is so they dither through the whole thing at
40-50mph, but even worse when they're in the 2nd lane and refuse to move
over. It needs a sign reminding people of the speed limit and a sign saying
"You're allowed to change lanes in the tunnel".
Q?
What is the speed limit in the Hindhead Tunnel?
(& is it variable or fixed?)
70mph all the way. Unless the electronic signs say 40.
David C
2013-09-16 00:34:35 UTC
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On Sun, 15 Sep 2013 20:28:08 +0100, "Mentalguy2k8"
Post by Mentalguy2k8
Post by The Revd
On Tue, 10 Sep 2013 12:51:33 +0100, "Mentalguy2k8"
Post by Mentalguy2k8
Why do so many people appear to think that this means that whichever lane
they enter the tunnel in, they have to *stay* in?
It's bad enough that so many see the "average speed cameras sign" and don't
know what the speed limit is so they dither through the whole thing at
40-50mph, but even worse when they're in the 2nd lane and refuse to move
over. It needs a sign reminding people of the speed limit and a sign saying
"You're allowed to change lanes in the tunnel".
Q?
What is the speed limit in the Hindhead Tunnel?
(& is it variable or fixed?)
70mph all the way. Unless the electronic signs say 40.
Thanks for the info.
As for slower drivers, perhaps not everyone is too happy driving fast
in a tunnel?

We did some driving in Austria this year & some of the newer or
rebuilt tunnels are large enough to drive at the speed limit, (twin
bores, with a large cross section.)
The Arlberg (about 9 miles long) is still only a single bore with
two-way traffic, so 80 km/h seemed plenty fast enough for us,
especially after being "done" 35 euros for driving at 109 km/h in a
80 limit just before the tunnel!

I don't know much about Hindhead, perhaps it's a "fast"
tunnel............



DC
a***@gmail.com
2018-02-05 13:41:14 UTC
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Post by Mentalguy2k8
Why do so many people appear to think that this means that whichever lane
they enter the tunnel in, they have to *stay* in?
It's bad enough that so many see the "average speed cameras sign" and don't
know what the speed limit is so they dither through the whole thing at
40-50mph, but even worse when they're in the 2nd lane and refuse to move
over. It needs a sign reminding people of the speed limit and a sign saying
"You're allowed to change lanes in the tunnel".
For the uninitiated: It is more hazardous to start lane changing within a tunnel than anywhere else, this is where collisions occur (I will not call them accidents). The speed limit should be adhered to within the tunnel, and in the case of the Hindhead tunnel this has been risk assessed as 50mph. The yellow ‘SPECS’ cameras at the entry and exit portals are there to enhance this. Just remember that this is just a short tunnel by European standards and you will very soon be in the ‘fresh air’ again where you can once again travel at 70mph.
b***@cylonHQ.com
2018-02-05 15:00:23 UTC
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On Mon, 5 Feb 2018 05:41:14 -0800 (PST)
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a hard concrete wall to hit very close by.
g***@gmail.com
2019-05-10 09:38:59 UTC
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Post by a***@gmail.com
Post by Mentalguy2k8
Why do so many people appear to think that this means that whichever lane
they enter the tunnel in, they have to *stay* in?
It's bad enough that so many see the "average speed cameras sign" and don't
know what the speed limit is so they dither through the whole thing at
40-50mph, but even worse when they're in the 2nd lane and refuse to move
over. It needs a sign reminding people of the speed limit and a sign saying
"You're allowed to change lanes in the tunnel".
For the uninitiated: It is more hazardous to start lane changing within a tunnel than anywhere else, this is where collisions occur (I will not call them accidents). The speed limit should be adhered to within the tunnel, and in the case of the Hindhead tunnel this has been risk assessed as 50mph. The yellow ‘SPECS’ cameras at the entry and exit portals are there to enhance this. Just remember that this is just a short tunnel by European standards and you will very soon be in the ‘fresh air’ again where you can once again travel at 70mph.
The speed limit in the Hindhead Tunnel is 70, not 50 - all signs are derestriction signs unless a lower limit has been set for one reason or another. There is definitely NOT a standard 50mph signed limit in the tunnel
JNugent
2019-05-11 09:03:31 UTC
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Post by Mentalguy2k8
Why do so many people appear to think that this means that whichever lane
they enter the tunnel in, they have to *stay* in?
It's bad enough that so many see the "average speed cameras sign" and don't
know what the speed limit is so they dither through the whole thing at
40-50mph, but even worse when they're in the 2nd lane and refuse to move
over. It needs a sign reminding people of the speed limit and a sign saying
"You're allowed to change lanes in the tunnel".
For the uninitiated: It is more hazardous to start lane changing within a tunnel than anywhere else, this is where collisions occur (I will not call them accidents). The speed limit should be adhered to within the tunnel, and in the case of the Hindhead tunnel this has been risk assessed as 50mph. The yellow ‘SPECS’ cameras at the entry and exit portals are there to enhance this. Just remember that this is just a short tunnel by European standards and you will very soon be in the ‘fresh air’ again where you can once again travel at 70mph.
The speed limit in the Hindhead Tunnel is 70, not 50 - all signs are derestriction signs unless a lower limit has been set for one reason or another. There is definitely NOT a standard 50mph signed limit in the tunnel
Confirmed.

I was down in Hants a couple of weeks ago - probably only the third time
I've used the (new-ish) A3 tunnel.

I couldn't remember whether the limit was NSL or something lower. But it
was NSL, although ISTR that on a previous trip (perhaps during a busier
period), I did encounter a (temporary) 50 limit there.
Peter Johnson
2019-05-11 14:17:42 UTC
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Post by JNugent
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Post by Mentalguy2k8
Why do so many people appear to think that this means that whichever lane
they enter the tunnel in, they have to *stay* in?
It's bad enough that so many see the "average speed cameras sign" and don't
know what the speed limit is so they dither through the whole thing at
40-50mph, but even worse when they're in the 2nd lane and refuse to move
over. It needs a sign reminding people of the speed limit and a sign saying
"You're allowed to change lanes in the tunnel".
For the uninitiated: It is more hazardous to start lane changing within a tunnel than anywhere else, this is where collisions occur (I will not call them accidents). The speed limit should be adhered to within the tunnel, and in the case of the Hindhead tunnel this has been risk assessed as 50mph. The yellow ‘SPECS’ cameras at the entry and exit portals are there to enhance this. Just remember that this is just a short tunnel by European standards and you will very soon be in the ‘fresh air’ again where you can once again travel at 70mph.
The speed limit in the Hindhead Tunnel is 70, not 50 - all signs are derestriction signs unless a lower limit has been set for one reason or another. There is definitely NOT a standard 50mph signed limit in the tunnel
Confirmed.
I was down in Hants a couple of weeks ago - probably only the third time
I've used the (new-ish) A3 tunnel.
I couldn't remember whether the limit was NSL or something lower. But it
was NSL, although ISTR that on a previous trip (perhaps during a busier
period), I did encounter a (temporary) 50 limit there.
https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@51.1230359,-0.715933,3a,17y,182.03h,94.7t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sDQPAJtMSJ_x-lA5oUb6adg!2e0!7i13312!8i6656

(Maybe it was 50mph when it first opened.)

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